manual brakes

[85cam]

While I am doing the BBC swap, I have read that manual brakes give you more room, since the booster is gone.

My question is simple, can I remove the booster, and bolt the MC right back on, or is it a little more to it? I know the piston size is different for manual vs power but at the parts stores it has the same casting number on both parts! I realize brake feel will be a little rough but with adrenaline pumping and no street use this may be OK?

So can I use the same master cylinder for now and upgrade it later to aftermarket?

[dand355]

ok here's what i did and others also. took out the booster and bolted up the same master that came off the booster , brakes are harder but like you said your pumped up haha. bolt it anyway you want make plate , relocate. lowbuck works

[85cam]

Make plate? On the 85 they came with manual brakes
Is the holes not there? Have not taken it off yet but will be in a few hours!

Pics will be forth coming, believe that! LOL

[Diabolical]

Manual uses a different bracket.. you will see.. (It a freaking pain in the ass to get off)

[dand355]

you have manual brakes your good leave it alone. i've put bb in blazers without moving the master, but also cut the fire wall and pushed the motor back

[az03sonoma]

You can see the bracket sitting loosely in the mounting location. I got my setup from a bone yard for $25 including master cylinder and push rod. :10:

And yes, it's a pain to get off, but worth it.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/az03sonoma/Project%20S10/IMG_4682.jpg


Tony

[Randy 406]

The best part about using the factory plate is, you'll have the saftey "cup" on there to prevent the rod from ever falling out.

[onehookinsuv]

Pic of my son's master cylinder

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/my67chevyii/mastercylinder016.jpg

[1slowdime]

what cylinder is that the plate is different on a second gen i took my booster off and cant even lock the brakes what should i use i need part numbers people lol

[onehookinsuv]

It's a wilwood master cylinder with a first gen manual brake plate with cup.

[jameskirk1]

I understand that the manual brake truck uses a different (upper) hole for the push rod in the pedal to allow more leverage. Haven't done this swap yet but will soon check into it.

[1slowdime]

the mounts on a second gen are totally different still confused on what i actually need

[96407s10]

On my second gen I cut the stud on the pedal and moved it up about 1 1/4 inches and rewelded it back on and just bolted my master to the firewall. I had to build a new push rod and made a washer sleeve so it could never fall out, and welded a stop so the pedal could never retract enough to pull the rod out of the sleeve. My brakes work great I can make the first turn off running out the back door @ 126 mph.

[1slowdime]

that was with the power master cylinder?

[1slowdime]

I have a sleave and stop already made and instaled

[96407s10]

Yes it was the power master cylinder.

[1fast10]

i used a willwood polished master cyl with 7/8 travel. had to buy a bvrake rod kit from summit but it works great. pedal is softer than stock but it stops really well with aerospace brakes in rear heres a pics. bolted into factory spot
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc312/sterry57/284.jpg

[1slowdime]

Ok i think i will try that then