Best Heads for the $$

[hjsmith00843]

For the money what is the best heads. I prefer alum. I have been looking at the CNC patriot stage 2 heads. Goal is around 400-450 hp

[spib]

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFR-1054/

[Mark @ Hammerhead Racing]

I'm a fan of Trick Flow 195's...NOT!

Seriously, they are OK but for $1100, I think you could find better..

Edelbrock's are pricey for what they are..Not recommended..Runners are small....

AFR is great, as are Brodix stuff..My choices are those two in that order..

No "BEST" head, just good and better depending on your budget and goals...Like are you going to want to go faster down the road, so can you grow into them, etc...

[Mark @ Hammerhead Racing]

Damn Mark treed me!!

[hjsmith00843]

Wow Was not looking to spend 1500 on just the heads. What iron heads do you reccomend??

[Mark @ Hammerhead Racing]

http://www.jegs.com/i/World+Products/955/011150-1/10002/-1

Find a used set on racingjunk...OR go Vortecs....

[hjsmith00843]

how are the dart iron eagles? also will I want straight or angle plugs if i am going to run fenderwell headers

[Mark @ Hammerhead Racing]

Iron Eagle are good also..But you are awfully close to aluminum head prices...$1100 for trick flows...

[farond21]

how are the dart iron eagles? also will I want straight or angle plugs if i am going to run fenderwell headers

I am running Dart Pro 1's straight plugs with fenderwell headers. no problem at all getting to the plugs.

[alan johnson]

check out the iron eagle plats at speedway motors good prices.i got a guy running 6.50's
with a mild 406 at 3012lbs with sportsman II heads and i feel the iron eagle is a much better head.if this guy had the correct converter he would run 6.40's and if he was on alky i feel he would run 6.30's and that's a mild 406 with less lhan .640 lift on the cam.Alan

[outlaw84]

I went through Patriot 's plant and they are good for low dollar horsepower . I have a couple of friends running these heads on there vehicles and they have had no problems . I aquired a free set of them and to the darts I have I am going to CNc the Patriots and use them . If you like some pics i be happy to send you some

[406shark]

With fenderwell headers you can use either straight, or angle plug heads with no problems.


Jeff

[hjsmith00843]

I know alot of people have complained about the first pro comps but I have found on other forums that the new generation 3 heads are really good with a little port work. And the CNC heads are actually really good.

They say it is better to get the bare heads and install your own valves and such.

[BillyG29c]

cooks had pro comps and never had any head trouble and went 7.51 on a mild 355 had a 550 solid in it and 10 to 1 comp. So since when is a 640 roller a mild cam? I must have missed something lol. As for Iron eagles i have them on my 377 and seemed to be good went 7.27 on out of the box stock.with a 1.58 60 needing a converter.

[white_dime94]

you cant beat a sportsman 2..my little 355 has them on it..stock crank and rods with trw 9.7 to 1 flat tops and a .590 solid flat tappet and it runs 6.80s at 3000lbs..my 360 sbc runs 6.40 and 6.50s with them.

[85ss]

I have Edelbrock Victor Jr.'s...
Make just over 600hp with a 406, .630 lift cam...

[hjsmith00843]

My goal is to run in the 7.50-8.00

I figure 450 HP will get me in that rage with a 4.56 gear

The truck is very very light Lexan windows, all the non needed parts taken out
Alum dash, tubular upper control arms, Drag seat, and 8 point cage.

I a looking at the idea to get a set of the bare procomp 64cc cnc heads and putting good valves and springs in them.

[white_dime94]

i personally have never owned pro comp heads...but a buddy of mine said they werent good heads...

[1slowdime]

I have phase 11 bowtie heads they are port matched been 7.40s on the dope

white dime how much you spray to get 6.80s out of a 355

[TheLuv]

EQ Heads. Stands for Engine Quest I believe. They have a good set of steel heads cheap. They even offer a steel head with a combustion chamber size around 54cc if Im not mistaken. That would be good for your flat top motor to bring the comp. up.

[TheLuv]

https://parts.aaeq.net/IW_Products.m4p.pvx?;MULTI_ITEM_SUBMIT

They accually have some with a 50cc chamber. WOW. I kinda like that cc200aa part #.

[white_dime94]

I have phase 11 bowtie heads they are port matched been 7.40s on the dope

white dime how much you spray to get 6.80s out of a 355

never owned a nitrous kit...thats on motor....

my uncles 355 runs 6.50s on motor and my buddies wagon runs 6.40s on motor 355....you dont have to spray them if you build a good one ;)

[white_dime94]

https://parts.aaeq.net/IW_Products.m4p.pvx?;MULTI_ITEM_SUBMIT

They accually have some with a 50cc chamber. WOW. I kinda like that cc200aa part #.

this guy races with us..he knows i aint lyin to ya

[hjsmith00843]

wow what kind of compression will I be looking at with the 50cc heads. I do not mind using Iron heads. I will find the weight to strip somewhere else. But I thought I could not run that much compression with iron heads.

[quicks10]

look at the brodix iron killer heads...

http://www.competitionproducts.com/IK180_200-Iron-Killer-Chev-SB-Aluminum-Heads/products/151/




patriots.

http://www.competitionproducts.com/Patriot-Freedom-Series-Alum-Chev-SB-Head-Assm-190_64cc/productinfo/PAT2181/

[Diabolical]

look at the brodix iron killer heads...

http://www.competitionproducts.com/IK180_200-Iron-Killer-Chev-SB-Aluminum-Heads/products/151/




patriots.

http://www.competitionproducts.com/Patriot-Freedom-Series-Alum-Chev-SB-Head-Assm-190_64cc/productinfo/PAT2181/

Nice choices..

[HardinValleyMagic]

Well guess I am one of the few to have good luck with the ProComps from Whites Performance in Kingsport Tn. As for price, $650 for the set. 2.02/1.60 valves screw in studs and guide plates will support .575 lift.
I went through their machine shop and was impressed. 2 cnc machines that they use on the heads. and an aray of engines sitting around being built.So best bang for the buck? So far kinda hard to beat that price.
Just my .02 worth

[1fast10]

i think this ? is a loaded ?. head technoligie has changed so much over the last 10 years that cheap heads are flowing and making power. however the good heads still shine in a few areas people seem to over look. for starters theres quality of metals and workmanship. afr,brodix,dart are made with good materials which will not damage or worp. also they put alot or research in there design. flow numbers are irrelivant and cheeper companies use this to take you in. so honestly i think you pay for what you get. if you buy a afr head or brodix your gona get the best bang for you buck. if your trying to campare a afr to a pro comp. you cant. both heads will flow the same but the afr will make more power. less likley to crack or worp. and will be a better head

[spib]

I work at a aluminum smelter, if people think all aluminum is just that then they are wrong, there is differnt grades of metal, and you do get what you pay for

[hjsmith00843]

look at the brodix iron killer heads...

http://www.competitionproducts.com/IK180_200-Iron-Killer-Chev-SB-Aluminum-Heads/products/151/




patriots.

http://www.competitionproducts.com/Patriot-Freedom-Series-Alum-Chev-SB-Head-Assm-190_64cc/productinfo/PAT2181/



I am going with that set of patriots. I hope to order them sometime in Jan. Or first week of Feb........

[1fast10]

also everyone needs to remeber aluminum will fatigue over time and with heat cycles. just like aluminum rockers. from the day you first use them there life begins and will eventually fatigue and fail. aluminum heads go through many heat cycles and has extreme pressure in the chamber. if its not a good alloy it can eventually become weak and crack.

on a note of brodix. they have there own casting facitly so the make there stuff all in house. patriots assemble and cnc in america but has the casting s done over seas if im not mistaken

[white_dime94]

I am going with that set of patriots. I hope to order them sometime in Jan. Or first week of Feb........

better choice than the pro comps:rock: i would rather run a double hump:fighting15:

[outlaw84]

I agree Good Choice

[RatDime]

I started with 291 double humps with a .515/.535 lift single plane hurricane, 750 holley, 3k stall 1 7/8 fenderwell headers and 4.56 and ran 1/8 mile everytime with 28" tire she would muster 7.90/8.0 consistant, then installed a set of pro-comps on it. I got them for 500.00 complete and added my springs and did a valve job and clened up the bowls some (alot of flashing) nothing else done it ran 7.60-70's. added a tunnel ram with a pair of 600's 7.20's. Then sold it and now a 505 bbc is going in.
I saw nothing wrong with the comps besides some clean-up work. Case of beer and some tunes and shut your garage door you can do it over the week end. Well worth 500 bux to me. So there, you've heard it first hand from double humps to comps.. I still have the cam and lifters and springs and retainers for 75.00 Its broken in and all lifters are matched to the lobes. No need freaking out about breakin in a flattappet cam. its a hyd grind that pulls to 7k rpm and a idle that sounds like the worlds coming to a end....

[AlteredRacer]

I have always like brodix, dart and afr. Just remeber you get what you pay for

[jdrags10]

I personally like Brodix. They can repair just about all of their heads. Repair rate is 99%. I have seen a few that I would have trashed. But they made them like new again. And they reheat treat after every repair regardless. Dart and afr do not repair their own heads. That's why I choose Brodix. Says something to me when manufacturer repairs their heads in house.

[adn406]

wow what kind of compression will I be looking at with the 50cc heads. I do not mind using Iron heads. I will find the weight to strip somewhere else. But I thought I could not run that much compression with iron heads.

the higher the compression you run with iron heads the higher the octance you will have to run. you can run 12:1 with aluminum and run premium octane pump gas. if you run 12:1 with iron you'll need to run like 110......

[AlteredRacer]

I personally like Brodix. They can repair just about all of their heads. Repair rate is 99%. I have seen a few that I would have trashed. But they made them like new again. And they reheat treat after every repair regardless. Dart and afr do not repair their own heads. That's why I choose Brodix. Says something to me when manufacturer repairs their heads in house.


Actually Jim I think they'll repair any aluminum head whether it's theres or not

[Austin92]

is that 895 for a pair?didnt say in that ad

[deimos]

Anything by world products is pretty good band for the buck. Motown heads are aluminum cheap and good.

[Proshot]

Well guess I am one of the few to have good luck with the ProComps from Whites Performance in Kingsport Tn. As for price, $650 for the set. 2.02/1.60 valves screw in studs and guide plates will support .575 lift.
I went through their machine shop and was impressed. 2 cnc machines that they use on the heads. and an aray of engines sitting around being built.So best bang for the buck? So far kinda hard to beat that price.
Just my .02 worth


we built a 565 bigblock in a 77 camaro and the car runs 5.73 at 115-117 mph in the 1/8 with the procomps my buddy loves them, I use Darts but I was looking at the air wolfs by Dr J

[406 Sonoma]

So far with all the problems I had I think the Airwolfs are going to be a monster they are going to scream at 7600. Also Chad is awsome to work with he still emails me to check on the progress.